New research suggests that melatonin may help lower the risk of breast cancer, slow the growth of breast cancer, and help make breast cancer. This occurs when the bowels do not move regularly, which can cause bloating and abdominal pain. But on the best positive ever i am 5 years clear . Thanks, @amandajro, but agree with @almostoutofthewoods this isnt gastrointestinal bloating which this article addresses. Still having regular bowel movements and there is really no pain. Lots of swelling but few if any, caused by pedicle tram recon. This is particularly true with women who have had a mastectomy. Mine has in ever since chemo so thought it was from that but other folks noticed it after anesthesia. Also, some elastic type shorts that come up to belly button and that have a wide elastic band for waist. It's not caused by gas, which most of the suggestions are referring to. The dr said that it was lymphatic fluid gathering at the bottom of my breast due to the surgery. Do you think I would benefit from a chest and abdominal binder? Even after all that, we still dont know everything or we just simply forgot in amongst all that information being thrown our direction. I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. He said since things were disturbed during surgery it would take a little time to go down and just wear a good supporting bra which I have been doing but nothing has changed. however,had a DIEP and ended up with seroma in the abdomen,which capsulated,and removed surgically.Consequently I ended up with scar tissue and a protruding tummy. That is great informationI'm going to check into belly binder. Nor, do I hold a doctors degree to suggest what someone should do medically. As it turned out there were no lymph nodes removed, just some fatty tissue. I am not fat just looks like a have a basketball under my shirt. Hi Delight, welcome. I understand they are focused on saving our lives but discounting our side effects is really disheartening. Its possible that you may go home with one or more surgical drains. Well discuss how long recovery takes, what mastectomy pain is like, and when you can typically return to daily activities. I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. Most people who have a mastectomy only need a short hospital say. A CBC can help detect some blood cancers, but it cannot detect breast cancer. Now I will insist on therapy for abdomen as well as arms. My belly swells and goes down. This feels different like an unusual fluid retention in the belly region. You should go to a certified lymphedema therapist, or CLT. I also wanted to say that it feels like soup one minute and a rugby ball the next ( its also that size!) Following bilateral Mx I had failed implants and was completely flat.My tummy appeared to be really fat,as wasn't balanced out. 1. I don't tend to wear my prosthesis in my bra, but have noticed that when I do, my tummy disappears just like the non-mx side. 20002023 The Breast Cancer Site and GreaterGood. If you happened to start the reconstruction process with expanders, or even once you put implants in, infection can still happen. If it's just mild swelling, sometime it is just due to bloated intestines.If the gastrectomy was several weeks or months ago, the considerations include ascites (abdominal fluid), a hernia, versus tumor regrowth.Talk with your surgeon to learn more. Take care, Lola. Bruising and some swelling are common in women after surgery. I started physical therapy 2 weeks ago and the physical therapist could tell right away that it was fluid. In addition to general pain or discomfort, it's possible to feel:. Immediately after your mastectomy, youll be moved into the recovery room at the hospital. Hi, I'm new here and have been too busy to consistantly lurk! Reconstructive surgery can be performed at the same time as your mastectomy surgery. Up till then I was completely fobbed off. Eighteen ways to reduce bloating: I did not know about this. PMPS is thought to be linked to damage done to the nerves in the armpit and chest during surgery. I was very concerned about lymphedema because I was trying to resolve my risks. @chamisa I am a year out of a double mastectomy and seem to develop a lot of upper belly fat. Great news but now2 months out I still cant wear my clothes. Still having regular bowel movements and there is really no pain. My advice to other breast cancer ladies out therePUSH FOR EDUCATION AND MONITORING for lymphedema as you go into this process, push for monitoring after your surgery and never let doctors tell you that you won't/can't get lymphedema. Breast cancer survivor bilateral mastectomy sentinel node removed on cancerous side now have arm and trunk swelling on non affected side is this norm? I find that trawling the Internet expeciallythe US sites can throw up some useful information but you do need to read it with care. An abdominal CT was normal. Thanks again. That I just noticed it now coz I no longer have breasts but we know our bodies, we notice most of the changes especially change in our stomach where most of us are very conscious of. Very long story short I developed lymphedema out of the gate following surgery in my left arm. I have only taken one pain pill since my surgery, and that was on the first day. Generally speaking, you may be OK to drive if youre able to make an emergency stop without causing pain or discomfort at the mastectomy site. Gone up several sizes despite losing weight. , Well my results turned out different I went for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy today and my doctor said that I could possibly have a hiatal hernia I will be able to confirm it Monday because I'm having a CT scan with contrast and they're supposed to let me know something but so far that's what they say my bump is I pray everybody figures out what theirs is. Kaiser also offers their patients an "after breast surgery" training class by the physical therapy department whereupon one does a series of stretching, core, weight training (stretch bands and free weights), and then finishing with stretching exercises. Instead have been doing core exercises and strength training from the Physical Therapy Dept at our facility. So is that it? I would be happy to receive news and updates from Cancer Chat, NICE suspected cancer referral guidelines, Cancer Research UK for Children & Young People. Doing so can help your recovery go as smoothly as possible. (2020). As such, you may want to look for a comfortable, but supportive, chair to sleep in during the early stages of your recovery. Below, well take a deeper dive into what to expect when recovering from a mastectomy. She was happy with everything. None of my clothes fit me and I know I haven't suddenly put on so much weight to make me look 6 months pregnant! Know that, although it may take some time, youll eventually start to feel better. Swelling can take 4-8 weeks to completely resolve. Pain immediately after your mastectomy will make you feel like you were crushed by a ton of bricks. Lymphedema is a build-up of lymph fluid in the fatty tissues just under your skin. Dressings. I woke up from the first surgery with it. I'm in crazy California (northern) and have Kaiser Permanente. After the surgery, gravity may cause the fluids . I wondered also if it is because of being on the AI killing off all estrogen if that was having an effect. This can happen if you have a more extensive procedure, such as a radical mastectomy or if you have breast reconstruction during your mastectomy. When can I resume my normal activities after a mastectomy? My belly seemed almost as big as my boobs were (and that's not small). I know it doesnt seem long, but three years is still three years and it feels good. I already use compression camisole and do the lymphatic drainage, but the belly is annoying. You have 3 options: Now I look like Im six months pregnant. Like Helpful Hug 2 Reactions REPLY Was told it would get better. @sandyjr and others in this thread.. The hospital and my surgeon said the swelling was not swelling, they said my stomach appeared to me to be swollen because I did not have breasts. He's focused on getting the cancer out. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support and answers. During this time, theyll evaluate your progress, discuss any additional treatments (if needed), and address any concerns you may have. After researching this phenomenon online, I think that it must be due to the antibiotic I will finish today. I might be a big baby, but I was so upset! Breast Cancer Now is a company limited by guarantee registered in England (9347608) and a charity registered in England and Wales (1160558), Scotland (SC045584) and the Isle of Man (1200). Keep at your PT and massage and other care. It's called MLD, or manual lymphatic drainage. I too had 'mild' lymphedema.now I have hand and arm damage and it's not so mild. I then researched seroma after abdominal surgery and I found its a fairly common side effect. I'm afraid that I've turned a bit psycho since my diagnosis and was fairly sure my bulge was either pancreatic or peritoneal cancer tumours. Abdominal swelling may have multiple causes as listed by Bookish. Then she went out and got me fruits and a big salad to push the greens. I didn't have recon, and don't bother to wear my prosthesis much either, but my big hard upper tummy still protrudes further than my E/F cup boobs! I did find this information which may be helpful to see if there are things in your day-to-day that you can add or modify to support reducing bloating. However, some people may have a longer recovery period. I now have a very large protruding stomach that seems to get progressively worse as time goes on. I may have some in my abdominal area as well but I have been focused on my arm. You also need to be comfortable wearing a seatbelt. It's most common after operations that remove tissue in the upper outside portion of the breast or the underarm area. Is there anything we can do to make the swelling go down? You may not like the look of your implants or the way your chest looks if you chose not to do reconstruction. Any use of this site constitutes your agreement to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy and Conditions of Use linked below. Go to the Breast Cancer Support Group. If anyone has a rave review of someone who does MLD (manual lymphatic drainage) in Minneapolis, please share. So, any treatment, or have they just said that it will go on its own eventually? This might happen after your nurse removes the wound drain if you have one. I had left mastectomy and few lymph nodesleft side bloating/swelling4 months post op. Copyright 2000-2022 Cancer Survivors Network. Hahaha. All rights reserved. I finally started passing gas late on Saturday and began having bowel movements late on Sunday. Swelling, edema and ascites Swelling or edema is a build-up of fluid in the tissues. However, some breast cancer patients will be shocked to feel brief bouts of sharp pain in their breast months, even years later. There's evanmarcus again appearing on the forum with slightly odd remarks.. "I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. Any ideas why the arm swell, or become edematous, after a radial mastectomy? An abdominal CT was normal. Any use of this site constitutes your agreement to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy and Conditions of Use linked below. October 2003 #5. A coordinator will follow up to see if Mayo Clinic is right for you. Your surgeon can give you a more specific timeline for how long your recovery period may last. I am one of the lucky ones. Its lymphatic, not gastrointestinal. I've lost nearly a stone since the op, and have been going to the gym three times a week. Try to have a loved one get the prescription filled when youre on your way home, so youll have it on hand if you need it. There's no way to completely predict or prevent breast cancer. For potential or actual medical emergencies, immediately call 911 or your local emergency service. Abdominal swelling after surgery - has anyone else had this? YES, we discussed loss of feeling and sensation in my breasts and armpits. Most surgeons seem to feel that the area settles more quickly if it is left to absorb into the surrounding tissues naturally. Prophylactic mastectomy is surgery to remove breast tissue. I had a modified radical mastectomy, chemo and radiation in 1996-1997. However, its important to be aware of the signs of a potential complication so that you can seek help. I do not get my blood drawn at the cancer center nor the hospital associated with it. Spivey TL, et al. When having a mastectomy, your breast tissue is cut away from your skin. I was discussing my request for lymphedema consideration when I went for blood work etc. Nguyen list some of the most important ones: Women should get cervical cancer screening starting at age 21 and should discuss breast cancer screening starting at age 40. I just googled abdominal lymphedema after breast cancer and yes, I'm sure that is", "I'm here because of the bloated stomach I noticed just today. All the best to you. Thank you Jolamine, very helpful, at least I know what to look out for. which swelled occasionally but disapated in a day or 2. now i have had pouch swelling fo? Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on. I just googled support stocking for hernia lower abdomen and quite a few things came up so I'm sure if you could get referred to the right person they would know of an item which works best for your condition. could it be fluid? Hopefully the burping and passing gas is the beginning of your relief and your bowels will follow. I never had trouble doing that either before all this. I just spoke to a wonderful woman on the support line ( hey I made a pun!) I am so sorry you have gone through all of that without the doctors or nurses explaining the future possibilities. We are always here for you. @kk57 has shared something she is doing that seems to be helping. But if those emotions last longer than you would desire, seek some help from a professional. Exercise is a major key to recovery, in my opinion, and for me that has brought many unexpected benefits. Your surgeon may prescribe a pain medication to take after you leave the hospital. I have very skinny legs and arms, but this huge stomach bulging out!!! Follow your instincts and if your doctor isn't responsive enough, keep looking for one who will attend to your health needs. Youll also be given a leaflet that has written and visual descriptions of these exercises. What are some tips for mastectomy recovery? The worst part of my story is thisthis past November I got cellulitis in my left hand and arm and went into sepsis. You will be able to add URLs to your posts in a few days. It is best to see your oncologist. I was stage 1", "Hello @almostoutofthewoods and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. My seroma appeared within 6 weeks of the original operation. Healthline Media does not provide medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Ive created list of my top eight post-mastectomy issues to relay over to those who ask. I had sentinel lymph nodes taken then and later all nodes in R arm. My prophylactic, bilateral mastectomy with immediate reconstructionwith implants, has developed severe swelling on left side. I feel so relieved knowing what this is and how to take care of it. Once the month-long class is completed, as patients we do those twice weekly at home and for me it takes about 30 minutes. All Rights Reserved. Thank you! Now lets explore when you may be able to restart certain activities after your mastectomy. When you return to work can also depend on the type of work you do. This feeling is due to nerve damage that can happen during the surgery. Because of this, you may want to ask a loved one to help you out with some of your day-to-day activities as you recover. It's not", "I had surgery Feb. 27, 2019 and had abdominal swelling. We spent extra time with our doctors asking questions to help us understand what we were getting into. The amount of stress on the intercostal nerves could be reduced with less invasive techniques such as the VATS technique. I had a double mastectomy with no reconstruction about 3.5 years ago. Talk openly with others about what youre experiencing. When you get home from the hospital, your movements and range of motion will be more limited. Try to make the circle as big as you can and move both shoulders at the same time. About a month after the August surgery my belly became hard and bloated. I hope that your recuperation continues to progress. Hearing the words, You have cancer, creates many emotional scars. I am also on the Wheat Belly diet, which is similar to Ketono wheat or grains, no sugar, good fats and vegetables, etc. Now it does! I will probably get the results of that this Friday..I hope. My abdominal swelling was caused by reconstruction where they lifted the skin from lower belly to boob. Its a long post but there just seems to be so little info available that I wanted to share. And contact the incontinence nurse for help with retaining the control I have. Youll generally need to avoid doing household chores and lifting heavy objects for a set period of time. When you can start driving again typically depends on how you feel during recovery. things that can help you while showering or bathing, including: items to help with surgical drains (if you have them), such as: a drain lanyard for the shower, which can help to keep surgical drains from dangling, a mastectomy drain apron or jacket, which has pockets designed to secure surgical drains, comfortable pants, such as yoga or lounge pants, shirts that fit loosely and that can button or zip in the front, something to keep you entertained in your hospital room, such as a book, magazine, or tablet. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support and answers. She did Manual Lymphatic Drainage (MLD). Swelling After Surgery Is it Normal? Go to the Breast Cancer Support Group. Once the fluid was aspirated, it almost immediately felt a lot better. I never was informed about the possibility of lymphedema at all by any medical person, but an acquaintance had it so at least I was aware. This was my second bout of cancer, as I had a lumpectomy the previous year. Losing a breast is difficult in itself, but having issues with your new physical image is just as hard. This was at a cancer center that was connected to a hospital that had a trauma center! From surgery to chemotherapy to radiation and for years later, many of those scars remain. After time, you will gain back that range of motion assisted by exercise. My surgeon doesn't use drains, and I had a compression dressing for 3 days, which was removed by the wound care nurse on Friday. My bowel habits have returned to normal, but I also have torso bloat/swelling that is quite uncomfortable. They suggest using an abdominal binder and more importantly going to a physical therapist trained in lymphatic massage. This is such a common problem after a mastectomy that I would think doctors would admit that it is a problem and address it. Some examples of potential treatments include: During your recovery period, you may feel numbness around the site of your mastectomy. I think it's a build up of fluid, like a lymphedema problem. Also how can I tell if I have a seroma or just post surgical swelling. A belly binder may just bind the area and not let the lymphs move along. I was given a PT referral for lymphedema evaluation. Im going to email my surgeons with all those questions you dont ask at the time ! When you open up your body, youre leaving yourself exposed. Lung Cancer Surgery Recovery Time: How Long Does It Take? Pleased if that helped spark further ideas. If I had a bulge now I look at the lymphatic system. She had me purchase an abdominal binder which I wear only during the day. Your nurse or doctor can drain the fluid with a needle and syringe if the seroma is painful. Is there anyway to tell if this is a hematoma orsomething other than normal -without going back to the doctor? Re: Abdominal swelling after surgery - has anyone else had this? I WAS a 13 year survivor until last month. Clearly the link you wanted to post is not spam. They just say that because muscle has been removed from my abdomen, the abdominal wall is very thin, so there is not much support. Depends: It depends how long after gastrectomy.If the swelling happens a few days later, it can be due to infection or bleeding. So grateful I found this group! Possible problems after mastectomy. I have mild lymphedema in one arm after a bilateral mastectomy where seventeen lymph nodes were removed. for the first couple of days I could actually hear the fluid moving around, but this has stopped now. I don't suppose that this has helped you a lot but I hope it has maybe pointed you in a direction that will help you to find a way out yourself. Medical procedures always scare me now. Does it go away? This is a good video, and maybe some of the breast surgeons discussed on this thread should watch it. Connect with thousands of patients and caregivers for support and answers. As a retired RN the abdominal bloating made no sense at all. Its also possible that you may be offered physical therapy during your recovery period. With this in mind, try to prep your house and supplies ahead of time. So, yes, I have lymphedema and the massage moved a lot of fluid out. I woud look at your lymph system as the areas you have highlighted sound like the main lymph drainage areas. 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